Van Damme comes clean about his battles with drugs, depression and divorce
1998 by Joey Berlin
[This interview comes from the E.Online website, and was taken a
short time after shooting the movies Desert Heat and Legionnaire]
Some things pack a bigger punch than Jean-Claude Van Damme.Like
cocaine. Manic depression. And marital troubles.Even the
Muscles from Brussels can't handle that combination, and now he admits
it nearly cost him his career--and his life.Van Damme was
one of the biggest action stars on the planet in the late '80s and
early '90s, thanks to films like
Kickboxer,
Universal
Soldier,
Street Fighter and
Timecop.Then
came the emotional and drug problems. He left third wife Gladys
Portugues and their three children to marry Darcy La Pier. Their
brief, tumultuous run included a rehab stint and allegations of abuse
against the star. Van Damme says he now has his demons in
check. He's taking medication for his condition, has quit cocaine
"cold turkey" and returned to Portugues and his kids. He
has a new film,
Knock Off, a Hong Kong action flick shot two
years ago that also features funnyman Rob Schneider. But he's
more excited about two other movies he recently completed that display
more than just his action skills. Because these days, Van
Damme is eager to show off his human side.
You're back, onscreen and off. Are you
enjoying it?
It's a great comeback for me, because I'm with my family and kids and
everything. I'm back with my ex-ex-wife for the last six months, which
is great. I've done my circus. I've done my mood swing. I've done all
my shit. Now I'm back good. I'm stable. I'm relaxed.
With your emphasis on fitness, how did
you ever develop a cocaine problem?
It was a mixture, more than just the drugs. It was emotional. It was
relationship, friendship, disappointment. It was about many things.
Then I stopped training. I was just having enough of pulling the rope.
You really need some good people behind you just to come out of
it--which is yourself, the first one.
How did you get clean?
Just by saying, "Stop!" When you're ready to come back, you
come back. If you're not ready yourself, nobody can help you. Not
clinics, not medication. To me--I don't know about the other
people--it's depending on you.
Was there ever a moment when you thought you
might not come out of it?
It became a point where I wanted to die. I didn't have any reasons to
live. Maybe it's selfish to say that, but I was not excited about
anything. Then you
have to find back your
self-esteem. And then, slowly, every piece of yourself becomes
precious again. One day it's, like, either you pass or you don't. It's
not the drugs, it's a problem with yourself, which you have to cure.
Did you feel like your fans abandoned you?
No way. My fans are always there. People with taste have taste.
[Laughs.] It's not the fault of people, it's yourself.
Millions of kids look up to you. Do you
think, after all this, you're still worthy of being a role model?
I think it can be taken asA?. a good example. There's nothing wrong to
slip, if you come back. It's like a champ. If you go in a ring and you
get knocked out, you train again and you come back as a champion.
I never hurt nobody but myself. I was hurting myself because I made
some big boo-boo with my private life. I always felt I was listening
to the wrong person inside me. Since I'm back together with the
family, with the wife and the kids, nothing will take me down.
Gladys is still technically your ex-wife,
though, isn't she? Will you two marry again?
I don't know. She doesn't care. I'm back with her in the house with
the kids. We don't know yet. I think I'm going to move to back
east--to New York. I miss the culture. I miss Europe. It's difficult
for me to stay in Los Angeles, because I have been to so many parties
and so many hotel lobbies and all that bullshit. I'm sorry to talk
that way, but it's just like it's not there. It's a big piece of
billboard.
What are your goals today?
It's not really my career. It's to find peace with myself. That's the
absolute career. Making movies or TV or plays is great, but when you
go home tonight, you have to be happy with yourself and your family.
That's the biggest achievement you can do. Right now, I'm here to talk
about Knock Off because it's part of my career, but my life
will not depend on my career. You know what I'm saying? I just want to
be happy.
Unfortunately, your private life plays out in
public. How has your family handled that?
My Gladys--she's there to help me and forgive me. And my kids, I'm
just a hero when IA?. come home. They know about everything. We talk
open. They know me, they know the real Van Damme.
How old are they?
Eleven, seven and two and a half. Boy, girl, boy. Oh boy.
Has therapy helped you?
It didn't help me too much. I'm sure it is good for some people. I met
a great neurologist five years ago. The first time I went to his
place, he said I was a daily cyclo-manic depressive. Which means in
one day I was having a wave of three, four...up-and-down stuff. That's
why I'm so quiet and less alive now. I've got the same passion for
everything, but I was fighting that thing. I was fighting it with the
karate when I was young.
Are you on medication now?
You just have to take a little salt, and since I'm doing that it's,
like, BOOM! In one week, I felt it kick in. All the commotion around
me, all the water around me, moving left and right around me, became
like a lake.
You take salt?
Yeah, it's valperate sodium [a medication usually used for treating
seizures]. It's like a lithium type of stuff, but you don't have to go
for the checkup. Lots of people have it, and they're doing well with
it.
What kind of drugs were you abusing? Just
cocaine?
That's it. That's what I did. But everything is a drug in life, when
you think about it. Coffee, cigarettes, love, shopping, making movies,
oxygen, training. Training is my biggest drug. Not these days but
before. I was compensating for my manic-depressive disease with
training. When I didn't train for a coupleA?. of days, I felt so low and
nothing could make me happy. I'm telling you, you don't realize how
crazy I was mentally without that salt. That simple salt.
If someone has a drug habit in Hollywood, do
people look the other way as long as they're showing up for work?
If the guy makes money, what he's doing to himself is his own problem.
Hollywood will forgive you, but that's not too important for a guy
exposed to drugs. What he has to do is make peace with himself and
forget about the box office. For the studio, it's the money. But for
you, it's your self-esteem. It's two different answers. For me,
everything is fine now. Everything is beautiful. Happiness is the
cure, being happy with yourself.
After all the years of action films, how is
your body holding up?
Okay, still okay. But everything has a price. The body's getting used.
I'm 38. What you have to do is keep on training. You have to go to the
gym, like, every day so you don't get rusted. I read some article
years ago about Sly [Stallone] saying with the age it becomes more
difficult to go to the gym. It's mental and physical. It's not that
easy. But I was lazy for two years, so this is a good film for me. Knock
Off came when I started to come back. I just finished two movies
since Knock Off. They're in the can right now.
Tell us about them.
One is like a foreign legion-type movie in the 1930s. It's like a Beau
Geste in Morocco. It's like "The French Patient," not
the English one. And I just finished a film with [director] John
Avildsen, a very crazy movie called Inferno. I play a crazy guy
who wants to kill himself. He's an A?.alcoholic and don't care about life
too much. It's a very different type of movie. No makeup, no beauty,
long beard. Crazy comedy. It's like a Pulp Fiction in the west.
It will be a very surprising movie for the Industry.
Your movies have grossed hundreds of millions
of dollars around the world? Do you get respect in the film business?
It's the wrong time to answer, because Inferno and the foreign
legion movie are so different. You'll be surprised when you see them.
I don't know what to tell you. I look like that strong, macho,
kick-ass action star, which I portray in those movies, but I can do
something else.
You sound really humbled.
Maybe you're right. Maybe it's good, you know? Because what I really
am in life is just another guy, you know? When you go through life,
you start to realize that.